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Do you believe God would use spiritism to convey a message?
The logical answer would be no, but for some reason some Christians believe God uses spiritism to deliver His messages. They use the story of Saul and the witch of Endor to back up their claims. In 1 Samuel 28 we read how Saul went to a woman that consulted familiar spirits with the intention to speak with Samuel who was dead.
The bible says that spiritism and witchcraft are: unclean (Leviticus 19:31), an abomination (Deuteronomy 18: 9-12), evil (2 Kings 17:17), works of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-20).
There is no light in them (Isaiah 8:19-20) and people that use this sinful method will perish in the lake of fire and won’t inherit the kingdom of God (Revelations 21:8, Galatians 5:20-21).
He forbids us from using such abominable methods (Leviticus 19:31):
“There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.Thou shalt be perfect with the Lord thy God.” ~Deuteronomy 18:10-13
God cannot sin (Proverbs 6:16-18, James 1:13) for He is holy and He is light and, in Him there is no darkness (1 John 1:5):
“The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.” ~Psalm 145:17
All His methods are righteous and holy, how else would He win the heart of those that are in the wrong path? How would He convince a liar to stop lying if He lies? How would He convince a medium to stop dealing with familiar spirits if He uses familiar spirits to speak to His people? How can He tell us to be perfect (Matthew 5:48) if He’s not going to be perfect?
Familiar spirits are demons that aide sorcerers, witches, mediums, necromancers etc. in divination. They speak with low voices, and by muttering (Isaiah 8:19), and ‘whispering out of the dust’ (Isaiah 29:4). The bible also tells us that the spirits of devils can work miracles (Revelation 16:14).
Did God use spiritism to speak with Saul? No.
Did God use a demon to speak with Saul? No.
Did God speak with Saul that night? No.
How do we know this?
---Saul never saw Samuel:
“And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.
And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.
And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.” ~1 Samuel 28:12-14
He asked the witch what she was seeing and by what she told him, he presumed it was Samuel.
--- God had departed from Saul and wasn’t speaking to him anymore (1 Samuel 28:6).
Because of that Saul approached ‘the opposite of God’ to seek advice. He went to a woman that could summon a demon, so the demon could divine unto him:
--‘Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her.’ (1 Samuel 28:7)
--‘and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit’(1 Samuel 28:8)
Divination was (is) the pagan version of prophesying (Ezekiel 21:21, Jeremiah 14:14). It is not from God.
If you seek the Lord with all your heart you will find Him (Jeremiah 29:13, Deuteronomy 4:29), but you have to seek Him in a way that you can find Him. Saul was not using a way that would lead him to the Lord, nor was he seeking the Lord (1 Samuel 28:8). And what he found was not from the Lord.
“And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do.” ~1 Samuel 28:15
The bible tells us more than once that God wasn’t speaking with Saul, that His spirit had departed from him (1 Samuel 16:14, 1 Samuel 28:6, 1 Samuel 28:15). It is repeated so we can be clear about that. Then a demon impersonating Samuel appears and people think is God talking. His word already told us that He had departed from Saul precisely for this, so we wouldn’t be deceived, and yet we are. Apparently it doesn’t matter how many times God warns us about satan we still fall into his trap.
How can people say that there was suddenly an exception where God used spiritism to speak with Saul? God is holy, there are no exception with sin. He doesn’t contradict Himself. The bible is very clear, God wasn’t speaking to Saul nor by dreams or prophets, so certainly what communicated that message to Saul was not the prophet:
“So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; And enquired not of the Lord: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse.” ~1 chronicles 10:13-14
Saul ‘enquired not of the Lord’, and if it’s not from the Lord then it was from Satan. Simple as that.
---Samuel was dead (1 Samuel 28:3)
‘The dead know not anything’(Ecclesiastes 9:5), and ‘neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.’(Ecclesiastes 9:6) and there is no knowledge in the grave (Ecclesiastes 9:10).
Regardless of the belief you have about ‘where we go when we die’; the dead have no business with the living.
No, the spirit didn’t prophesy. Everything it said was already known (Read: 1 Samuel 15 & 1 Samuel 16). It even repeated things that Samuel had already said:
The familiar spirit told him:
--That the ‘Lord hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour’ (1 Samuel 28:17)
--Because Saul ‘obeyedst not the voice of the Lord’ (1 Samuel 28:18)
Samuel before dying told him:
-- ‘didst thou not obey the voice of the Lord’ (1 Samuel 15:19)
-- ‘The Lord hath rejected thee from being king over Israel’ (1 Samuel 15:26)
-- ‘Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou’ (1 Samuel 15:28)
They don’t.
The familiar spirit said: ‘Moreover the Lord will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines’ (1 Samuel 28:19).
How could it know that? Easy.
What happens when God is not with you? What happened to Israel every time they fought without the Lord?
Here’s an example:
“For the Amalekites and the Canaanites are there before you, and ye shall fall by the sword: because ye are turned away from the Lord, therefore the Lord will not be with you.” ~ Numbers 14:43
Also, just because it seems to be the truth it doesn’t mean is God talking:
“And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.” ~ Act 16:16-17
Deceit, confusion, separation, sin, and perdition.
Consider the people (including Christians) now practicing spiritism saying God makes exceptions with it, if they die in their sins they won’t be saved. Consider the people getting rip off by trying to communicate with their loved ones in the ‘after life’ through mediums and spiritists. Consider the people saying the bible and God contradict themselves because He says that spiritism is unholy, that we cannot be defiled by witches and their works and then He practices spiritism. Consider the people saying the bible lies because it is written that the dead have no knowledge in the grave yet Samuel seemed to have a lot of knowledge. Consider the people saying God is not perfect because He uses familiar spirits. Consider the separation in church this brings. Satan gains a lot.
Remember: “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” ~1 Corinthians 14:33
That’s how the devil plays, he repeats God’s words, he transforms into an angel of light, a minister of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:14-15), he performs the same ‘miracles’ (Exodus 7:11). That’s how he fooled Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:3).
Satan can deceive us with the so called spirits of the dead; he can fake them. He can also do great signs and wonders to deceive us (2 Thessalonians 2:9-10). And he is a master in deceit, the father of lies (John 8:44), and he does it so well that if possible he has a change to even deceive the elect (Matthew 24:24).
“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” ~ 2 Corinthians 11:14-15
How can people think God would use the sinful method of consulting with familiar spirits to deliver His (already delivered) holy message?
Thankfully God gave us His word to warn us about these things:
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:” ~1 Peter 5:8
And He gave us the best defense:
“Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.”~Ephesians 6:11
Do not be deceived.
The logical answer would be no, but for some reason some Christians believe God uses spiritism to deliver His messages. They use the story of Saul and the witch of Endor to back up their claims. In 1 Samuel 28 we read how Saul went to a woman that consulted familiar spirits with the intention to speak with Samuel who was dead.
Spiritism is unholy
The bible says that spiritism and witchcraft are: unclean (Leviticus 19:31), an abomination (Deuteronomy 18: 9-12), evil (2 Kings 17:17), works of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-20).
There is no light in them (Isaiah 8:19-20) and people that use this sinful method will perish in the lake of fire and won’t inherit the kingdom of God (Revelations 21:8, Galatians 5:20-21).
He forbids us from using such abominable methods (Leviticus 19:31):
“There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the Lord: and because of these abominations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee.Thou shalt be perfect with the Lord thy God.” ~Deuteronomy 18:10-13
God is holy
God cannot sin (Proverbs 6:16-18, James 1:13) for He is holy and He is light and, in Him there is no darkness (1 John 1:5):
“The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.” ~Psalm 145:17
All His methods are righteous and holy, how else would He win the heart of those that are in the wrong path? How would He convince a liar to stop lying if He lies? How would He convince a medium to stop dealing with familiar spirits if He uses familiar spirits to speak to His people? How can He tell us to be perfect (Matthew 5:48) if He’s not going to be perfect?
Familiar spirits are demons that aide sorcerers, witches, mediums, necromancers etc. in divination. They speak with low voices, and by muttering (Isaiah 8:19), and ‘whispering out of the dust’ (Isaiah 29:4). The bible also tells us that the spirits of devils can work miracles (Revelation 16:14).
Did God use spiritism to speak with Saul? No.
Did God use a demon to speak with Saul? No.
Did God speak with Saul that night? No.
What spoke to Saul that night was not the prophet.
How do we know this?
---Saul never saw Samuel:
“And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.
And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.
And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.” ~1 Samuel 28:12-14
He asked the witch what she was seeing and by what she told him, he presumed it was Samuel.
--- God had departed from Saul and wasn’t speaking to him anymore (1 Samuel 28:6).
Because of that Saul approached ‘the opposite of God’ to seek advice. He went to a woman that could summon a demon, so the demon could divine unto him:
--‘Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her.’ (1 Samuel 28:7)
--‘and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit’(1 Samuel 28:8)
Divination was (is) the pagan version of prophesying (Ezekiel 21:21, Jeremiah 14:14). It is not from God.
If you seek the Lord with all your heart you will find Him (Jeremiah 29:13, Deuteronomy 4:29), but you have to seek Him in a way that you can find Him. Saul was not using a way that would lead him to the Lord, nor was he seeking the Lord (1 Samuel 28:8). And what he found was not from the Lord.
“And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do.” ~1 Samuel 28:15
The bible tells us more than once that God wasn’t speaking with Saul, that His spirit had departed from him (1 Samuel 16:14, 1 Samuel 28:6, 1 Samuel 28:15). It is repeated so we can be clear about that. Then a demon impersonating Samuel appears and people think is God talking. His word already told us that He had departed from Saul precisely for this, so we wouldn’t be deceived, and yet we are. Apparently it doesn’t matter how many times God warns us about satan we still fall into his trap.
How can people say that there was suddenly an exception where God used spiritism to speak with Saul? God is holy, there are no exception with sin. He doesn’t contradict Himself. The bible is very clear, God wasn’t speaking to Saul nor by dreams or prophets, so certainly what communicated that message to Saul was not the prophet:
“So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; And enquired not of the Lord: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse.” ~1 chronicles 10:13-14
Saul ‘enquired not of the Lord’, and if it’s not from the Lord then it was from Satan. Simple as that.
---Samuel was dead (1 Samuel 28:3)
‘The dead know not anything’(Ecclesiastes 9:5), and ‘neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.’(Ecclesiastes 9:6) and there is no knowledge in the grave (Ecclesiastes 9:10).
Regardless of the belief you have about ‘where we go when we die’; the dead have no business with the living.
It couldn’t have been a demon, didn’t the spirit prophesy truth?
No, the spirit didn’t prophesy. Everything it said was already known (Read: 1 Samuel 15 & 1 Samuel 16). It even repeated things that Samuel had already said:
The familiar spirit told him:
--That the ‘Lord hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour’ (1 Samuel 28:17)
--Because Saul ‘obeyedst not the voice of the Lord’ (1 Samuel 28:18)
Samuel before dying told him:
-- ‘didst thou not obey the voice of the Lord’ (1 Samuel 15:19)
-- ‘The Lord hath rejected thee from being king over Israel’ (1 Samuel 15:26)
-- ‘Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbour of thine, that is better than thou’ (1 Samuel 15:28)
How can demons know the future?
They don’t.
The familiar spirit said: ‘Moreover the Lord will also deliver Israel with thee into the hand of the Philistines’ (1 Samuel 28:19).
How could it know that? Easy.
What happens when God is not with you? What happened to Israel every time they fought without the Lord?
Here’s an example:
“For the Amalekites and the Canaanites are there before you, and ye shall fall by the sword: because ye are turned away from the Lord, therefore the Lord will not be with you.” ~ Numbers 14:43
Also, just because it seems to be the truth it doesn’t mean is God talking:
“And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.” ~ Act 16:16-17
What would Satan gain by using God’s words?
Deceit, confusion, separation, sin, and perdition.
Consider the people (including Christians) now practicing spiritism saying God makes exceptions with it, if they die in their sins they won’t be saved. Consider the people getting rip off by trying to communicate with their loved ones in the ‘after life’ through mediums and spiritists. Consider the people saying the bible and God contradict themselves because He says that spiritism is unholy, that we cannot be defiled by witches and their works and then He practices spiritism. Consider the people saying the bible lies because it is written that the dead have no knowledge in the grave yet Samuel seemed to have a lot of knowledge. Consider the people saying God is not perfect because He uses familiar spirits. Consider the separation in church this brings. Satan gains a lot.
Remember: “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” ~1 Corinthians 14:33
That’s how the devil plays, he repeats God’s words, he transforms into an angel of light, a minister of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:14-15), he performs the same ‘miracles’ (Exodus 7:11). That’s how he fooled Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:3).
Satan can deceive us with the so called spirits of the dead; he can fake them. He can also do great signs and wonders to deceive us (2 Thessalonians 2:9-10). And he is a master in deceit, the father of lies (John 8:44), and he does it so well that if possible he has a change to even deceive the elect (Matthew 24:24).
“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.” ~ 2 Corinthians 11:14-15
How can people think God would use the sinful method of consulting with familiar spirits to deliver His (already delivered) holy message?
Thankfully God gave us His word to warn us about these things:
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:” ~1 Peter 5:8
And He gave us the best defense:
“Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil.”~Ephesians 6:11
Do not be deceived.
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--- The first lie of the familiar spirit
--- The Bible never calls it a spirit imitating Samuel, it just says 'Samuel'
--- The reaction of the witch proves it was the prophet of God
The first lie of the familiar spirit:
The first lie was making Saul think it was Samuel, and that God spoke by it. Samuel was dead.
--The dead know nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5, Ecclesiastes 9:10)
-- They are sleeping (John 11: 11-14, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-16)
--We are not immortals (Job 4:17, Timothy 6:15-16)
--Souls (nephesh) can die (Numbers 35:11, Leviticus 21:11, Numbers 6:6)
What happens when we die
Demons play the game of deceiving so well that we don't even notice that we are being deceived. They've been doing this for centuries, we shouldn’t underestimate them.
The Bible never calls it a spirit imitating Samuel, it just says 'Samuel'
Saul went there to consult a familiar spirit, not to consult God (he even says so: 1 Samuel 28:7, 1 Samuel 28:8) and that's what he got.
Saul asked her to use the familiar spirit to bring up Samuel, that’s who the familiar spirit imitated. Calling it ‘spirit imitating Samuel’ instead of Samuel doesn’t do well with the job of divination.
People are supposed to think the medium is communicating with the person they want, if they call the apparition as ‘spirit imitating the person you seek’ the façade and the business falls.
Remember, their intention is to deceive.
The reaction of the witch proves it was the prophet of God
It is evident that the woman was surprised at something, because she cried out. And because of that some people think that contrary to what the witch was expecting it was the real prophet that appeared.
If it was indeed the real prophet then:
--The familiar spirit had the power to bring him up.
--or God sent him to meet Saul.
Obviously it is absurd to think a demon could have power over the dead, especially the righteous dead. And why think it was God who sent him? God refused to talk to Saul through every lawful, correct, and instructed-by-God method, why would He answer him using a sinful method, despised by God, in a ground defiled by satanic powers?
Both options are ruled out. That was not the real prophet.
If we read the bible, it gives us the answer as to why she cried with a loud voice:
“Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel. And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.</b>” ~1 Samuel 28:11-12
She didn’t cry because Samuel had come, the ‘old man with a mantle’ didn’t surprise her. That was her business, she was used to that, her familiar spirit had to impersonate the person perfectly. The witch was used to all that, for it was her job. Demons don’t only look shady and scary, they are fallen angels, they are beautiful and can be transformed to look like angels of light and ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:14-15, Revelation 16:14). So yes, they could impersonate Samuel to perfection without breaking a sweat.
The moment the familiar spirit transformed into Samuel she told Saul: “Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.” She didn’t cry 'Samuel indeed has come!'.</span>
She was afraid for her life because she found out that the person in front of her was indeed king Saul. She didn’t know he was Saul (it could have been any person, or any servant of the king) until the familiar spirit was summoned, so that only means that the spirit told her.
And she was afraid because of this:
“And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?”</i> ~1 Samuel 28:9
“And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.” ~Leviticus 20:6
“A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.” ~Leviticus 20:27
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Yeah but poor Saul was also schizophrenic. I think he was desperate to hear from God so he went to a medium. I think Samuel did talk to him though but not God. However I do magic and I've done magic, I KNOW that it is not the dead but rather demons or Satan speaking. As far as familiar spirits go I feel bad for the witches that hear them because I have Schizophrenia and I have a spirit visit me who does things. I know that Saul and that medium were miserable. I don't feel like I hate either of the two but rather sad that Saul had such a hard life and that God chose to harden his heart. The medium may have repented later we don't know but poor Saul killed himself. Such is the bleak world of the schizophrenic, to want God but play with spirits and to experience what he went through. You realize how miserable he was. What a poor man 
I hate to hear these sad stories about my schizophrenic brothers and sisters.
I hate to hear these sad stories about my schizophrenic brothers and sisters.